Adding Items To The Garden Database

Mike

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In my opinion, adding items into our Garden Database is a very simple process. It does require a bit of time, and can be a little daunting, if you're not familiar with the process, so I thought I'd take a little time to show the process of adding an item to the garden database.

If you'll take a look at the main page of the garden database, at the top of that page you'll notice a button to "Add garden item...". Clicking that, you'll be met with a screen to select the category you want to post your garden item in, which looks like the one pictured below. Please note that if you're already browsing inside a category (okra for example), clicking the "Add garden item..." button will skip this page and automatically select okra as the category.

Here's a look at the category selector screen. There will be more categories added later so it may not look exactly like this.

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Here you'll pick the category you want to add an item to. If you don't see a category that fits what you're wanting to add, please let me know and I'll get a new category added for you. I know there are a LOT missing, but I didn't want too many empty categories to start.

Once you've selected a category to post your item in, you're met with the main form for adding the info about your item (screenshot posted below). The title, tag line, and description are all required fields. The rest of them, while recommended, are not required. Also, those additional fields may be different, depending on what type of item you're adding. For example, if you're adding a flower, we're probably not going to show the field for "days to harvest" or "spacing".

The main section here is what's called the "Description". This is where you'll want to go as much in-depth about the item you're adding as possible. Think of it as a mini research paper. I divide mine up into sections, separated with a bold header, as can be seen in the Jambalaya 2.0 Okra item I added. On that one I added sections for "Planting and sowing", "Care and growing", "Harvest", and "Photo(s)". While recommended, though, this is not required. Write yours up however you think is best. The editor here used the same editor as writing a post so you'll still have all those bold, font, colors, list, etc options available.

Here's a look at the main form for adding an item to the garden database.

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There are even sections for attaching photos, just like attaching photos to a post. Additionally, you can specify an "icon". The icon you choose here will be what's shown when folks are browsing the garden database, and also at the top of the pages for your item. I recommend adding a close-up photo of the item here but, again, that's really up to you.

Here's a look at the attachment/icon sections.

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Once everything is filled out completely, simply click "Save" on this form. Your garden item will be saved into the database, and a new discussion thread for this item will be automatically added to the forums. Please note that there may be a short delay before an item is added as, for now, items need to be manually approved.

If, later on or for any reason, you want to edit your item (maybe you need to add/change some information), there is an "Edit" button at the bottom of all your items. This will simply bring up the same form as when you added the item, already filled out with all the information you added. Again, this will be familiar if you've ever edited a post here on the site before. Just make your edits and click "Save".

Now, once you edit/save an item, nothing will really "happen" other than the information will be updated on the item page. If you make a significant change, one that you want to let folks know about, then after you make your changes you can "Post an update". You'll find that button near the top of your item's page. Click that button and you'll be given a form to share details about your update. You'll need to specify an update title and update message. Saving on this form will change the "Updated" time on your item and automatically post into the discussion thread, letting folks know that you've made some updates to the garden item.

Here's a look at the automatic post that was added when I posted an update on my item about adding the photos.

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Posting an update is definitely not a mandatory step. It's more of a convenient way for you to let folks know you've made some changes to the item, but will also update the last updated time on the garden item itself. If you simply want to post in the discussion thread that you've made changes, or if you don't want to let folks know you've made changes at all, that's completely up to you.

So, there you go. That's how you can add items directly into our garden database. I appreciate any, and all, help we can get to making this one of the most comprehensive resources for gardeners across the web. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to ask.
 
Here's a list of ones I have grown and would be good candidates for data base.
Artichoke
Arugula
Asparagus
Beans
Beets
Broccoli
Brussels Sprouts
Cabbage
Cantaloupe
Carrot
Cauliflower
Celery
Collards
Corn
Cucumber
Eggplant
Fennel
Garbanzo Bean
Garlic
Gourds
Kale
Kohlrabi
Leafy Greens
Lettuce
Melons
Microgreens
Mushrooms
Mustard
Okra
Onion
Pak Choi
Parsnip
Peas
Peppers
Potato
Pumpkin
Radish
Rutabaga
Shallot
Soybean
Spinach
Squash
Swiss Chard
Tomato
Turnip
Wasabi
Watermelon
Zucchini

Seems like you are doing a "folder" on different varieties within a family...e.g. okra (family) and Jambalaya, Big Becks, etc. varieties for example? That can result in a lot of data but would be terrific and comprehensive when populated. However, I think for ease of use, a new grower perhaps would just like to go to a "family"? Another example, I have grown and tested over 15 varieties of potato...
 
Seems like you are doing a "folder" on different varieties within a family...e.g. okra (family) and Jambalaya, Big Becks, etc. varieties for example? That can result in a lot of data but would be terrific and comprehensive when populated. However, I think for ease of use, a new grower perhaps would just like to go to a "family"? Another example, I have grown and tested over 15 varieties of potato...

Thanks for that! I'll definitely give a lot of those a look and start adding them as I can.

Yes, the thinking was to only have pages dedicated to each variety. I thought about doing generic pages per vegetable, especially to start, but here was my thinking going into this thing.

I didn't want this to be some small little database filled with info that can be found just about anywhere. I wanted it to eventually become something large, and very comprehensive, for gardeners all across the country. I'd like to eventually have at least most of the most popular varieties of every veggie we grow here in the US. I know it'll take a lot longer to get there doing it like this, but (God willing) I've got years, not days, I can spend on this project.

I was also thinking that, for some people, if people have info about a different variety that we don't have, it might encourage them to 1) add it to the database or 2) post info/ask questions about their specific variety in the forums, both of which help the site in different ways.

Mainly, though, I'm hoping that people will bring their generic questions into the generic areas of the forums, and that variety specific questions/info will be in the garden database, and related forum(s).
 
However, I think for ease of use, a new grower perhaps would just like to go to a "family"? Another example, I have grown and tested over 15 varieties of potato...

I've been thinking about this the last day, or so, and I had an idea that might work, but I wanted to get your thoughts on it too. I was thinking I could add a new category under vegetables called "Basic info". Then we could add new articles into the database for each "family" of veggie (one for squash, okra, potatoes, etc). That way we'd have just some basic info for each kind of veggie, without having to do something for every variety. They'd all still show up in search results, and in the garden database forum, too.

Another option would to just add items into the appropriate categories and just call them "Basic okra information", for example, with all the info specific to okra as a whole in there. Then, later on, I could build a page that has links to all of those "basic info" items.

Either way, I think it might be a quicker way to get some basic info for each kind of veggie into the database, then we can add variety specific info in later on.

Let me know what you think.
 
I was thinking more along the lines of ease of user access. A structure of family > variety just seemed to me to be best for user access.

For example, want to know about carrots then select the carrot family and get all general info about growing carrots...want to know about danvers half long select that variety from the carrot family and get specialized info on that specific variety. Relational data base.

Just my thoughts.
 
I was thinking more along the lines of ease of user access. A structure of family > variety just seemed to me to be best for user access.

For example, want to know about carrots then select the carrot family and get all general info about growing carrots...want to know about danvers half long select that variety from the carrot family and get specialized info on that specific variety. Relational data base.

Just my thoughts.

Ahh, I see what you're saying. I'm not sure that's something that is possible to do with how the database is currently written, but give me a bit and I'm sure I'll be able to come up with something.

One thing I'm thinking right off-hand is to go ahead and add the general info articles into each family, like I mentioned before. Then, when someone clicks on a category page, for example the okra category, there will be a notice at the top that says something like "For general information about growing okra, please see our basic okra information page. For variety specific info, please select a variety below.". Then the "basic okra information page" will be a link to the general info article.

I'll keep brainstorming, but I do think something that like that would work just fine, especially if the notice was fairly prominent at the top of the page.
 
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